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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.
Well, guys, it's Bears-Packers weekend.
I've avoided talking about it as much as
I can all week,
but now we're on the doorstep.
We're going to talk about it next.
I love the chase and the hunt and
I set the pace when I'm running.
I always take what I want and I
always give it one hundred.
Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.
Play the game like it's nothing.
I'm always thankful for something.
Don't take for granted, stay humble.
Now wake up!
It's time to look at the enemy.
Look in the mirror if he is no
friend to me.
It's not working out,
maybe it's the chemistry.
It's time to break up so I can
make a better me.
What's going on everybody?
It is lunchtime!
Yeah, I do have to record that, man.
You're going to hurt yourself at some
point if you don't.
I'm going to have a hernia or a
strain of vocal cord or something.
I can't be having that.
I can't go on the IR this late
in the season.
No, no, no.
Too close to the playoffs.
Meredith, you don't have to lurk.
You don't have to look in through the
window.
You can actually come inside.
It's perfectly fine.
Oh, we got Jody, we got Joey, Bears,
Packers prediction, good guys, twenty-six,
bad guys, twenty-four.
Yeah.
I don't know.
What was that?
I said,
I don't know enough about the NFL right
now to make any kind of prediction, so.
i'm scared man i'm just a bears fan
i'm used to like not being good like
so i am i'm actually i'm scared going
into the weekend i've been a saints fan
for forty years believe me i know about
not being used to not winning also you
know a little bit about being used to
winning because the drew breeze years were
the drew breeze years like we were a
legitimate force there for a while and
then just fell out you had the sean
payton head hunting years too
Oh, yeah.
Bounty Gate.
Fucking bullshit.
Don't get me started on that, dude.
It just makes me mad.
I wrote an entire rant about it on
Facebook.
But let's be real.
We got a stellar,
stellar Kevin James movie out of the whole
deal.
Out of Bounty Gate?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
You've never seen a Netflix movie with
Kevin James?
Playing Sean Payton?
No, that sounds weird.
And coaching his son's peewee football
team?
No, but that sounds fantastic.
Oh my gosh, Mr. Movie Guy.
And you know Kevin James did the
authentic... I mean,
he looks just like Sean Payton.
It's funny you should say that because we
have a dude that owns a gym,
a CrossFit gym in Lafayette,
which is not far from me at all,
about an hour and twenty minutes,
who legitimately looks like Sean Payton.
Like he's going as Sean Payton for
Halloween for several years.
and it's like the resemblance is uncanny.
You look at it and you're like, nope,
that's not Sean Payton at all.
That is one hundred percent not.
It's bizarre.
I'm going to send you his stuff.
I was being sarcastic about the
comparisons of Kevin James to Sean Payton.
Yeah, I'm aware.
That's what I'm saying.
We have a dude down here that actually
looks like Sean Payton.
It's bananas.
No, yeah,
I know Kevin James does not look like
Sean Payton whatsoever.
John James missed yesterday.
Jazz to be here today.
Eric Mackey, a watcher and a subscriber.
Hey,
forty three percent of you watchers are
subscribers.
But that means that fifty seven percent of
you watch and don't subscribe.
It's free.
It's free.
It's free.
I've heard that like the spin are doing
these challenges to get extra subscribers.
Like for every subscriber they get up
until the new year,
they're going to do X.
I've thought about like how, if I,
for every new subscriber I get before the
first of the year,
I will do that many minutes on the,
um, assault bike.
Ooh.
And maybe I'll do a live show on
the assault bike carrying out the minutes.
How many do we need to get to?
What is it?
Three thousand?
Well,
we need so that YouTube does clean up
every end of the year.
So now we need forty five.
Forty five.
It'll be forty five minutes on the bike.
Forty five.
I mean,
you ain't got to see how fast how
fast you got to go.
I didn't just drive me on it.
i could do calories i could probably get
those done way faster than minutes monday
i'll have an answer for you which way
i'm going calories or minutes we'll do it
let's figure it out i love it and
this stuff is blowing me away like eric
mackie i was number two on the twenty
five recap um on my youtube interview
clydesdale media was number two behind
savann only because i was six months late
to the channel new mountain to climb um
I'm blown away at where I'm showing up
on these lists.
I never in my wildest dreams did I
ever think that that would even be a
thing.
But thank you, everybody,
where that has happened.
I am truly, truly blown away by that.
And I thank each and every one of
you for listening because it makes my day
every day at lunchtime to come down here
and talk to you guys.
It makes my day better.
So I hope it makes yours as well.
It doesn't work that way.
Unsubscribe and resubscribe is the same
one.
You'll just go down one, up one,
down one, up one.
Jenny had posted a story earlier.
She said having a daily show and time
slot is a huge driver for consistency for
the channel.
Killing it, Scott.
Yeah, thank you.
we were number four on hers, right?
So I messaged her and I was like,
we're number four, we're number four,
we're number four.
was number three on jody wow man we
i truly truly appreciate each and every
one of you i honestly i can't even
um i can't even believe that we're here
so that is amazing big fan awesome uh
and corey you're a big part of that
too carolyn jamie holly all you guys like
that contribute to the show i couldn't do
it without you happy to be here scott
happy to be here happy to help
um uh you'll be at quest tomorrow i
i don't know what quest is nope so
i'm guessing no yeah i'm gonna go with
no i'm gonna go with no on that
one um i'm gonna be at the gym
tomorrow possibly at the car dealership
buy my son a new car one or
two actually probably but hopefully both
um that was meant for jimmy
Jody, I'm embarrassed at my number two,
so I won't post it.
So, like, I honestly, when I got mine,
I actually have it up if I wanted
to share it.
I don't know because it's kind of boring.
I thought it would be CrossFit, CrossFit,
CrossFit, CrossFit.
Because, I mean,
I watch The Spin every week.
I watch Hiller all the time.
I watch Savant all the time.
I watch Claire and CJ.
I watch, like,
I watch everything I can possibly watch to
be up to date on everything possible.
And all of mine are Chicago bears,
except for Savan.
So apparently what I,
when I thought I was watching a lot
of CrossFit,
apparently I'm watching a lot of Chicago
bear podcast too.
It's steady and the bears.
Yeah.
I've got Papa bear,
mama bear and baby bear all on my
podcast list.
That's fantastic.
Jenny's going to make it to Quest.
Good job, Jenny.
So, Valenz Media,
he's going to be our rep at Fittest
Experience.
Nice.
Getting shots for us.
Super pumped for that.
He helped me out a ton at the
games this year.
So, I hope...
We applied for credentials.
We're going to see how,
hopefully that goes well.
I wouldn't see where I wouldn't do that.
Is it Cajun every day, lunch hour now?
Yeah.
I just like hanging out with you guys.
That's it's, that's just what it is, man.
If I can, I,
if I can jump on,
I will more than likely.
So he's hanging out so much.
I've got to get him a mic.
So, yeah,
I don't have my earbuds in today.
I have no idea what my sound looks
sounds like.
It's probably terrible.
Yeah,
we got to up the sound with a
microphone.
So I'm going to get one here soon.
When I get my little bitty ones like
they do the interviews with.
Yeah, it's like a real mic,
but it's this big.
Looks like a Lego mic.
Sit there and hold like the testing,
testing, testing one, two.
Ain't nothing wrong with a little
seasoning,
especially some Cajun seasoning.
Well, we used to call it Cajun,
but then Sevon switched it to the Cowboy.
So now we're just going with the Cowboy.
Which is mind-blowing.
Oh.
Oh.
Froning just released a new podcast.
They brought on NC Fit under the Mayhem
umbrella.
Holy smokes.
Wow.
That's amazing.
I don't know why I even thought this
way, but when I saw them kind of,
I thought there might be a merger of
that and make, and just become bigger.
Kalip has been working at this like entity
for a long time.
And the mayhem has kind of been more
organic through it.
Holy smokes.
Dude.
Holy smokes.
Wow.
Jenny just broke the show.
Um, that's a big deal.
Um, people have seen that, uh,
Ken Walters go Savon Clydesdale, Hiller,
Glinton, CPW.
That's how I thought mine would roll with
minus me.
Cause I don't really watch myself.
Um, but it's all Chicago bears.
Kalipa staying on to advise collab to help
the gym owners and coaches.
So I wonder what the program is going
to look like.
Have you ever seen Jason's program?
Kalipas?
I used to back in the day.
I probably haven't been looking at it much
lately.
The place that is or used to be
our second location is now Cajun CrossFit
right down the street from where I am
right now.
They tried it right whenever the new owner
bought it.
And it lasted two months because the
members were complaining about it so badly
because like,
it just didn't feel like they weren't
doing burpees.
They were doing up downs where you don't
go all the way to the ground.
And like, it was just some,
and some different type movements.
Like it was just different, right.
Whatever Jason had programmed or whatnot
to the point where when,
when the owner canceled it,
Jason called him himself to see and get
feedback.
He's like, hey, man,
I see y'all just started and you just
canceled.
Can you tell me what's going on?
He had a whole conversation with him about
it.
And I thought that was kind of cool,
Jason reaching out himself to see, hey,
what did we do wrong?
What can we do better?
That kind of stuff.
So I am super curious as to see
what that's going to look like now that
they are together,
because I don't see Mayhem changing their
program.
Um,
John George went to a gym that followed
NC fit horrible, like F forty five.
I went to a gym that followed mayhem.
It should be called interval fit.
So my old gym did mayhem before I
left.
I didn't hate it, but it was,
but we,
we came out and we went comp train
to mayhem and,
and mayhem was so much better than comp
train.
Like it just felt like we had been
rejuvenated and but I'll be,
I'll be completely frank.
Like my favorite time in CrossFit at that
gym is when the owner programmed,
I thought he did a better job than,
for the everyday CrossFitter and knew the
clientele better than buying into a
subscription.
But I, you know, comp training.
Yeah, well, comp training,
we've been on it forever at my gym.
I don't,
obviously I don't do it unless there's
something in there that looks interesting,
which only happens twice a month.
We've been on it forever.
Ups, downs, up, downs, here, lately,
since they changed to complete training.
Not comp training anymore.
Although comp training is still there if
somebody wants to.
I don't know.
It's a whole thing.
Anyway,
I could one hundred percent understand how
going from that to literally anything else
is going to be an upgrade.
Right.
You're going to feel like you're just
making strides and whatnot just from what
they do to that.
to what literally anybody else done.
I've dropped into some places,
a bunch of places actually that do mayhem.
I enjoyed it while I was there.
It feels like CrossFit as opposed to a
lot of the complete training stuff that
just doesn't to me anymore.
Every once in a while you get one
that's like, oh yeah, this is cool.
But
I don't want to get off on that
tangent.
I want to get into this a little
bit, though.
And this isn't at all what was on
our rundown.
It's like a little bit of rundown we
have is just like a couple of things.
So there's a lot of questions about how
many gyms, how many gyms.
I think like it's risky to put any
numbers on that because I think we don't
define it well.
you NC fit actually had gyms,
physical locations that were NC fit that
they added on when COVID hit,
they went mass push into like opening more
physical locations.
Correct.
Also have programming that people
subscribe to.
I wouldn't necessarily say they are a,
an NC fit gym.
They just follow the programming.
And that's where we get into like a
little bit of like conf...
confliction with mayhem mayhem is starting
a new program where you can join them
as an affiliate and then they have the
old version of hey we're doing mayhem
programming my old gym is not a mayhem
affiliate it is they do the programming so
the numbers can get twisted if you don't
define it
right and i think that's where we have
to be careful right here because i think
if you say how many people subscribe to
their programming it can be like thousands
correct
if it's how many people are affiliates of
that, of mayhem,
and they just got started with that.
So there's probably not a lot of those.
And then you have like, I think,
thirty or thirty five is what NC fit
got up to right during covid.
And I don't know if they're still NC
fit gyms today.
Nobody knows because they're not I would
say not relevant, but they're not.
it wasn't worth it wasn't worth tracking
it's not a thing that that's worth
tracking because they're not uh like
shannon's saying that they're not a force
of nature like me him is like right
you can't you can't you could probably
tell somebody who's been doing crossfit
for six months and say mention mayhem and
they'll know what you're talking about and
if you mention nc fit they'll probably
look at you like you have two heads
like what do you what does nc fit
they probably have absolutely no idea
It's just not the same brand recognition.
And that's no slight against Jason.
It's just a fact, right?
What I also think that Mayhem is
positioning themselves,
depending on what happens with the sale
moving forward.
What sale?
So they can, I mean, if you,
there are people still claiming they are
in the position to buy,
whether it's realistic or not,
I don't know.
I keep telling my eight-year-old that
Santa Claus is coming down the chimney and
about the same amount of validity.
Yeah, I don't know.
I know jack about corporate takeover,
selling, buying, brand names,
all that kind of stuff.
It just doesn't seem to me like it
should be this drug out.
This is going on a year and a
half now.
Yeah, but at the end of the day,
just because your house is up for sale
for a year and a half doesn't mean
you still don't want to sell it, right?
And I think that at the end of
the day, at the end of the day,
Brookshire wants out from under this.
But they're not going to do it at
a penny on the dollar either, right?
Right.
So maybe if there are people that are
legit,
have the money and legit want to buy
it, I think Brookshire is going to listen.
It's just, so I, there,
there's always during this sale,
there's been a stumbling block with one
issue and they get to that issue and
then everybody bails.
So can this new group get over that
hurdle?
So a lot of people with money,
you mean not pranking?
Not Frank.
Just checking.
Just want to make sure we're on the
same page there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Frank is about two hundred million short.
Roughly.
Under ninety nine million nine hundred
dollars.
Yeah.
I got two bucks on it right now.
Well, actually, I got twenty.
I got twenty in my wallet.
I'll put it up across it right now.
You join.
Do you say you're doing Frank?
No,
I said I got twenty dollars on it
right now.
OK, I say shit about now.
No, I'm not.
I'm not giving Frank twenty dollars.
You lost your damn mind.
I'm not giving Frank the benefit of the
doubt, much less twenty dollars.
You lost.
No, look.
John Ortega's got two fifty.
Yeah,
Frank ain't getting none of my money.
No.
I don't think I'd back crunch fitness
before Frank.
I'm saying.
Look, Taker's got two fifty.
I got twenty dollars.
That's twenty two fifty right there.
We crowdfunded shit out of this.
We might be at fifty bucks by the
end of the day.
That's close to it, if not.
Fifty dollars.
All we need is all we need is
fifty dollars and Matt Sousa.
And I think we'd be good to go.
I'd put Susan in Georgia CrossFit
tomorrow, actually today,
if it was up to me.
Yeah,
I think the thing that he has said
out loud that I like the most is
get some smart people in a room and
talk about things, right?
Not just do.
And I like that idea.
It's a practical idea is why.
It's not just let's throw money at it
until it fixes itself.
It's an actual practical idea.
Hey, okay, you want to use money?
That's fine.
Let's use money on this.
Like building an actual HQ,
that whole thing that he built,
dreamed of, whatever you want,
however you want to look at it,
like put together,
that's a legitimate thing that gives
people somewhere to go.
It's a destination.
Hey, this is where our headquarters is.
Come over here.
Get a workout in.
Walk around.
See what's going on.
Managed to be part of it in some
sort of way while you're there,
or at least feel like, Hey,
at least I can say, man,
I went to this thing and saw it.
It was amazing in person.
Right.
I got to work out in,
I talked to seminar staff that were in
there or whatnot.
I mean,
as opposed to where's the head office.
I have, I have absolutely no idea.
Yeah.
Um,
Chattanoofy.
I appreciate that I can always count on
CrossFit Tuck on your show and some
football and movies,
but mostly CrossFit appreciate you guys.
Yeah.
I had movies on the rundown,
but then this thing broke.
So here we are.
Kind of in this realm,
and because I have not seen the podcast,
we're just shooting speculation off into
the air, right?
I'm going with what Jenny said she heard.
Kalipa's staying on.
Mayhem's taking over the NC Fit.
The Mayhem Empire's growing.
Why it's growing, we don't know.
I don't know.
But the other thing I wanted to talk
to you about is we talked yesterday about
the divisional games now combining with
the elites in San Jose.
But Legends is still running Masters.
Pitt is still running Teens.
Wheel Watt is still running Adaptive.
What are your thoughts about those
remaining on to run their pieces?
And listening to CJ and Claire this
morning,
because CJ is trying to be a sponsor
of the Masters games,
and it seems like even those pieces are
separate from the big show.
Yeah,
I only caught a portion of that this
morning.
I was actually watching that before I came
on here because I wanted to hear more
of what he was saying about that.
I think that especially when you're having
them all in the same place, honestly,
I think it could go either way.
You've either got a lot of chiefs and
not enough Indians trying to figure out
what is essentially going to be, what,
four separate contests in one and a half
venues, call it, assuming that,
not even assuming that,
Well, yeah,
I guess you kind of have to.
There's going to be some overlap between
the convention center and the SAP center.
That's a lot of cogs in a wheel.
That's a whole lot of cogs in a
wheel.
Whereas if Legends is just putting on the
Masters games in Columbus again,
that's all they have to worry about.
They don't have to worry about anybody
else having to use their system or
collaborating with anybody else.
which could be good, could be bad, right?
We've seen how it turned out last year.
And from what I understand,
the thing itself went fine.
Most of what people were complaining about
were the workouts themselves.
And I will tell you from experience,
being at Legends, they run a tight ship.
It is fun to be at because everything
runs more or less on time,
as far as I can tell.
I've never seen Rushed or Behind or
anything like that.
Just that the programming is what the
programming is.
I'm not one to...
I will definitely say stuff about it,
but I'm still going to go do it.
It doesn't matter what it is because the
test is what the test is.
Whether I think it's stupid or not,
it's still the test.
So having them all in the same place
like that, like I said, with some...
Wayne Short,
it would be interesting to know if the
CAC took divisional athletes' concerns to
CrossFit.
If so, what did they say?
John George, okay, not to be negative,
don't like it.
Also,
if Masters is all alone in a separate
building, why did they cut so many spots?
Makes no sense.
Andrew Sten,
why wouldn't they still be running things?
This is a one-year thing.
Most likely don't think they'll stay
merged.
And then Jenny, from what I'm hearing,
CrossFit will be more hands-on this year
with the event directors of each.
Well, here's what I want to say.
I don't think it's a one-year thing.
Really?
Yeah.
And CJ and Claire said this,
so I don't want to steal their line,
but why would you separate them out
knowing in two years you're bringing them
back together for the
And it separates your attendance, right.
Or, or separates it.
However you want to view it.
The big show looks as an empty arena.
Yeah.
When you have empty or a hundred masters
athletes in the same place,
right beforehand,
many of them will stay on for the
rest of the weekend.
And then you fill your seat.
Yeah, no, I, I want to represent,
I can see that if I'm,
if I'm competing and,
in masters for the games,
and I know that the elites start the
next day after we're done,
I'm not leaving.
I'm just going to take my vacation from
whenever we need to start all the way
through to when the end of the games
is, and then go home after that.
Yeah, no, that makes more sense.
That gets more butts in the seats at
that point.
I would think it would anyway.
Here are my concerns with the way I'm
hearing things.
And granted,
we do not have a lot of detail
at this point.
One,
if you're having them all in the same
city an eighth of a mile or eight-tenths
of a mile away from each other,
I would hope there's more coordination
with the sponsorship stuff to have a
vendor village that kicks ass again.
Somewhere either at the convention center,
at the SAP center,
or somewhere in between the walk to and
fro.
I would think that somewhere in between
would be ideal.
The other piece is I have never heard
a bad thing about Pitt running the team
division.
Nobody knows those athletes better than
the Pitt crew,
and they were running competitions before
they got this gig,
and everything was awesome.
Second,
I've never heard a bad word about wheel
wad.
In fact,
I've heard that most adaptive athletes
before they got the CrossFit Games looked
at the wheel wad championship as their
true championship of adaptive athletes
because they got every division of
adaptives at that one place at one time
and the CrossFit Games could not contain
all of that.
And so...
I've heard nothing but glowing remarks
about those two entities.
And they deserve to keep running what
they're doing.
Where I've heard the complaints is
Legends.
And Legends is happening.
Their original Legends Championship is
happening in a week.
You're competing there.
It is a phenomenal event.
And when they're doing what they're doing
there,
I don't care what their programming is
because it's their event.
It doesn't have to be balanced.
It doesn't have to be well-rounded.
It's the legends event.
It's not to find the fittest on earth.
And so I don't really care what they
do there,
but they have had a hard time adjusting
to running the games,
which now has this requirement that we're
finding the fittest on earth and it needs
to be well-rounded.
It needs to be a better test.
And in two years of doing it,
there have been nothing but complaints
from the space, from the,
the athletes from everybody.
I have a hard time with them still
running this when it has been nothing but
complaining about the programming for that
particular event.
I mean,
part of the reason why you hear all
the complaints about legends is because we
masters love to complain about everything.
I agree with you,
but they were valid complaints.
But last year, especially last year,
both years went super heavy,
no high skill gymnastics until later in
the weekend, both to make a difference.
And they're not listening to the
constructive criticism at all.
You don't see.
And two years ago,
nothing was over like eight minutes.
This year, they put in the seven K.
We got one event over eight minutes.
And it was just a minor structural event.
Right.
But there's no high skilled gymnastics
ever early on in their events so far.
And they're not listening to the
constructive criticism to make any changes
in that vein.
So that's where I have some concerns.
Lita says,
teens are too stressed to complain.
Listen, parents of teens will complain,
but that group at Pitt is so good,
and they're so good at knowing their
athletes,
and they take such good care of their
athletes,
you don't hear the parents complain.
And listen,
I used to be a little league umpire.
Parents are the first people to jump over
that fence and tell you you did something
wrong.
I swear to God.
Oh, no.
My daughter just started playing softball,
dude.
Believe me.
my youngest started playing softball,
my oldest played soccer.
When I am the voice of reason among
the parents,
because I'm the only one not shouting at
their referees or the umpire or whoever
the case may be, there's a problem.
If I'm the guy having to like,
Because my patience is short and my tip
can be pretty high.
And the fact that I'm the only one
out there going, hey,
maybe I should stop yelling at these kids
and the refs.
Maybe that sounds like a good idea.
Lito,
the reason I'm saying what I'm saying is
because I have inside information about
how the programming went last year and how
much Pitt was involved with the
programming last year.
Everything before that,
when they were their own show,
was done very well.
Joe said just a few weeks ago that
if you want to do gymnastics,
you have to earn it.
That is horseshit.
Horseshit.
Gymnastics is a part of the pyramid.
It is one of the aspects that you
have to be able to do well to
do CrossFit.
It's not earning it.
It is one of the things you test
for.
So, along those veins...
We have six events down my cheek right
now.
We have six events that led us next
weekend, the final,
which not everybody's going to get to do.
Cause they're going to be,
there's gonna be a cut right before the
final.
We're going to go from three heats down
to one, basically,
or four heats down to one,
whatever it is.
Um, is it that's where the,
the ring muscle ups are.
So like the only people that's going to
get to do ring muscle ups at the
end of the last workout of the weekend
are going to be top fifty.
Before that, there is total bar,
chest bar, and bar muscle-ups,
but they're all the same workout.
There's no handstand walking this year.
There was last year.
And there is wall walks with a wall-facing
handstand push-up.
Here's my thing.
That's their event.
And they can do whatever they wish.
I get it,
but it's very much like the games was.
It's the same.
I guess my point is,
it's fine at your own event.
But when you take over the CrossFit Games,
what you have to accomplish is different
than when you're just running your own
event.
We all know that if you go to
Rogue, you're going to lift heavy.
You know that going in and they're not
trying to find the fittest.
And if you don't want to lift heavy,
don't go.
Pretty much it's invitation.
Right.
It is the fact now that they are
the responsible to find the fittest on
earth,
that they need to be more respectful of
the pyramid and include all aspects of the
pyramid to find the fittest on earth.
And none of that needs to be earned
by another piece of the pyramid.
They're all testable events inside the
same pyramid.
That's the problem.
Again.
Program legends this year.
Yes, I have.
Okay,
so I've heard that if Boulder didn't
really program, they were consultants.
Well,
their name's been blazoned across the
entire thing.
Right.
They have sponsored the programming.
They have a say in the programming,
but I don't believe they are programming.
Okay.
always am glad when jenny agrees because i
don't want to get the notification that
i've made a dense update i don't want
to get tagged when i wake up to
am and i get that notification man i'm
sweating until i pull up the video i'm
telling you uh i think shannon's got a
good point right there
Bob and Joe have always had the approach
of earning gymnastics.
They have said it for years.
They don't think they need to change
because CrossFit hired them and it
validated their approach and philosophy.
Well, that's just wrong.
Not saying it's right,
but I'm saying she has a point.
Oh, she has a point.
I get something is giving them the
validation that they can just keep doing
what they're doing,
even though the whole world around them is
saying it's wrong.
Well,
and signing off on it because it's not
like the first time anybody saw those,
saw those workouts from, from CrossFit,
from HQ was at the games.
Whatever they submitted had to be approved
and sent out there and be like, yep,
that's what we're doing.
And just shipped out and called it good.
Like,
And this is not a one like, oh,
no,
we're not showing anybody our work until
we get there type deal for your for
the event that you hired us to do.
Like, that's not a thing that's happening.
Right.
So people would look at it and went,
yep, that looks good.
Send it.
And did it two years in a row.
I talked to too many people.
I had a conversation with a high-level
official at CrossFit at the age group
games, asked about the programming.
Did you have oversight?
From that conversation,
I ascertained that their oversight was
minimal at best.
If that's the case,
then that is a huge miss.
Hugeness.
That is Bob Uecker just a bit outside.
It is.
When CrossFit first gave up semifinals to
other organizations,
they took hard looks at their programming.
Why can't they take a hard look to
find the fittest on earth at the finals
of the CrossFit Games?
Right.
It's ridiculous.
I truly believe it's because of Lazar's
death.
They last year wanted to be so hands-off
that none of that would stick to them.
If anything went wrong anywhere.
And then they only pro programmed the
elite and the teams at the games.
That was it.
That's all their little box was.
And everything outside of that was run by
somebody else.
That's my, so let's,
Let's look at it this way.
If that's the case,
if they really were truly that hands-off,
where they had very little minimal input
and very little, like,
they just kind of let them fly on
their own, then first of all,
that gives very, very much, like,
still that they don't give a shit about
Masters programming,
because they're just like, yeah,
you guys just do whatever you're going to
do.
It doesn't really matter.
It's fine.
And then
There's no way they haven't heard all of
the things that had been in the space
since then, right?
Hey, the programming was not good.
It was too heavily biased.
It was too this.
It was too that.
It was not enough of this, whatever.
Is it a case of, OK,
we signed this contract with y'all.
Y'all have the games until twenty twenty
six.
Here's rope.
Here's some more rope.
Here's some more rope and see if you
can hang yourself with it.
And we'll reevaluate after twenty twenty
six.
That makes sense,
like just kind of just let them go
and let them see what's going to happen.
And if it, you know,
third time's the charm of however many how
many years their contract is for.
And after that, they just go, OK, yeah,
we've got nothing but bitching this entire
time.
Y'all out.
We're taking back over.
A Chattanooga,
why can't it be one program by Dave
and then Pitt, Wheelwad and Masters Group,
not Joe and Bob,
can make the needed adjustments?
To me,
I think this is what makes the most
sense.
What is a better example of the
methodology and showing that your workout
does not change by intensity or weight?
but by just scaling it back for the
different divisions.
And it would demonstrate that every day in
the gym, we have the best, the elites,
and we scale it back for all the
other athletes in the gym so they can
get the same stimulus, the same workout,
and we run that across masters, teens,
and adaptive.
You do it for the Open,
and you do it for quarterfinals.
And you do it for the online semifinals.
Everybody does the same workouts.
All the time.
Just scaled appropriately.
Last year, we all did for semifinals.
Everybody did heavy Isabel.
I did heavy Isabel.
Anybody else who did semifinals did heavy
Isabel.
But my heavy Isabel was one eighty five,
not two twenty five.
Because I was.
Forty seven years old.
Or forty eight years old.
Or however old I was.
They've done it on choice events.
And it's worked out.
Why not do the games that way.
And show.
This is what CrossFit is.
You look at this and go.
I could never do what these elite athletes
do.
Well let's watch the sixty five plus.
Can you do what they do?
Right.
Right.
Like.
To me,
that is actually the best way to tie
back the methodology of CrossFit with the
sport of CrossFit.
Well, it brings everybody together.
Right.
It's just like being in a class setting.
Everybody did the same workout today.
And thirty-five to thirty-nine can
probably do the elite version,
and they can compare this.
How far have I dropped off?
I got news for you.
Some of the forty-forty-fours came in too,
Rudy Berger.
True.
Jamie Latimer.
Jamie Latimer.
Absolutely.
If they did that,
there would be more elites watching the
Masters.
Yeah,
they'd want to see if any of them
beat their score.
My thing is about that, too,
is that I just said this,
but when you bring everybody together,
everybody's doing the same thing.
Now,
it makes more sense for everybody to be
in the same place.
everybody's doing the same workout
everybody's engaged more with each other
now because hold up that forty three year
old guy did what like yeah his score
would have been good for fifteenth in the
elite holy smokes because they don't know
what we do we know what they do
age group crossfit games they had a one
rep max snatch
the girl from New Zealand being coached by
Justin Kotler who hit two sixty five or
not two sixty five.
I don't remember what a clean and jerk.
It was clean jerk.
Two sixty five clean and jerk at fourteen
years old.
That became the talk of every division
that was there.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
The only person that matched that girl was
Christine Middleton in all divisions.
And she was fourteen.
That became the talk of the day.
The same thing would happen with the games
if elites were doing it,
if teams were doing it,
if divisions were doing it,
even adaptives.
The one negative to that is it's pretty
depressing realizing how far one has
fallen off, says Jeremy, but not him,
of course.
Shanna says it would be so fun to
do what the elites do with scaling.
That's the answer.
have the have pit have wheel wad have
legends scale the workouts hey this is
what everybody's doing take this make it
work for your division make it work for
your division make it work for your
division and then we go on about the
rest of our day it's the problem is
it's occam's reason right that the the
simplest answer is often the right one but
they they seem to not want to look
at the simplest answer
Everybody was so pumped at first when they
were like, okay, well, I say pumped.
Mixed reviews when, okay,
they're separating from the games, right?
Some people were excited because they're
going to get their own show, you know,
whatever.
Some people like Jamie,
who had just made it, was like, wait,
now I don't get to, you know,
compete on the same stage as everybody
else, which is,
I can also understand that.
But this,
as far as the programming aspect of it,
it's the easiest, it's the simplest route.
I wouldn't say it's the easiest,
but it's definitely the simplest route.
They can still be in charge of it.
It can still be the Legends, Masters,
CrossFit Games,
or whatever the hell it's called.
But it takes one thing off of their
plate.
Hey,
instead of having to come up with all
this original programming,
this is what we're doing for the games.
Make it work for your people.
Because you know these age divisions,
these age groups,
what they can and can't do better than
we can.
Same thing with the teams.
Especially the same thing with the
adaptives.
Can you imagine Ogo and them just rubbing
their hands together, looking at stuff,
going, oh yeah,
I can make this so cool for the
adaptives.
And make it so awesome for them to
start doing stuff.
Larry says they wouldn't like a
fifty-three-year-old out-snatching the
elite.
I disagree.
Yes, they would.
I disagree because it shows that CrossFit
is working.
And nobody complained when Sam Briggs was
a Masters athlete beating everybody in
events because Sam Briggs was a legend.
The only reason it becomes an outlier
beyond that is because those people didn't
get to come up through the elites because
CrossFit didn't exist for them.
So it seems like an outlier.
But as we develop as a methodology and
a sport,
more people are going to come up through
the elites and...
Jason Kalipa is going to snatch at forty
eight years old better than some younger
athletes.
Right.
I'm just throwing a name out there.
I said,
let's not probably use Jason Kalipa and
snatch in the same.
Yeah,
I'm I'm I was just trying to quickly
throw out a name,
but that is about Amanda videos.
The funniest thing I've ever seen.
Oh, but no,
I understand what you're saying.
James Townend at fifty is still going to
out clean and out snatch people in the
elite division.
everybody yes thank you mark phillips
james townsend is a great example that
dude is inside bro i don't understand how
so much talent and so and and he's
an awesome human being is just wrapped
into one person like it doesn't seem fair
dude he can jump out the gym he
can clean like power clean like three
seventy five four i don't know it's some
ridiculous amount about snatch all that i
do like
That dude's amazing.
I love James Thompson.
Affiliates don't have master's
programming, but they do have scaling.
Oh, yeah, we do.
You are somewhere with it.
If you are, which John is,
a master's athlete, you are an affiliate,
and your coaches are not taking care of
you every day to give you,
then I would bring it up.
Hey, man, I am.
I'm a general analyst.
What's that?
Or find a gym that will.
Or find a gym that will.
One hundred percent.
Shanna, scaling is master's programming.
It is.
To knowing what you can.
What I can put somebody through who isn't
who is a master's athlete,
especially people that are older than I
am,
to make sure that they hit the stimulus
and to make sure that they get a
good workout of their day.
Yeah.
You need to.
It would create a bit of buzz.
People would be more motivated to go
watch.
I agree.
I agree.
Everybody's doing the same thing.
Just scaled versions of it.
Somebody had said earlier about the...
Especially if you're all doing it in the
same week, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I understand.
Well,
it's like you said this a couple different
times.
Especially with the Masters not going at
the same time, in between heats,
you can put up highlights from what the
Masters did
Well,
now if we're going from Tuesday to
Thursday and everybody else is going from
Friday or Thursday or whatever it is
Friday now in between heats,
not only are you putting up the scores
from whoever just went in heat one.
Now you're also comparing them to the
scores from the masters that went earlier
that week.
Hey, man,
like this dude just did this in the
same event that you just did.
And then wait to put it on close.
You might want to pick it up a
little bit.
Like,
I don't see very many downsides to that,
especially if you're going to keep it like
you're doing this coming year with the
festival feel with it being, you know,
eight days long or however long it is.
Yeah,
we misinterpreted John George's comment.
He actually was saying that as a
compliment.
Affiliates don't have master's
programming.
They scale.
They do the same as everybody else in
the gym.
Why would we do it differently at the
games?
Correct.
My bad.
It was time to talk about it.
My fault, dude.
And maybe the scaling is that the elites
do twelve events and the masters do nine.
And you just pick the three that you
don't do.
It's part of it.
It has to be part of it.
That could be part of the scaling that
the volume of a twelve event weekend is
not recommended for a masters age athlete.
So you do nine of the twelve.
And you decide what can you take out
and still keep it well-rounded.
One hundred percent.
uh just like when in two twenty twenty
two we all did the swim ski event
and compared scores exactly exactly still
i would love to do that uh ken
walters our coaches have the rx on the
board and then lists alongside each
movement the scaling options and explains
expected stimulus when making your choices
exactly
Yeah,
and Train Olive has been all through the
comments, but it's not always weight.
It can be volume or skill level of
the movement, exactly.
And she said earlier,
it gives masters aged athletes hope when
you get to do the same things and
kind of see where you stack up.
Dude, as a massive athlete,
as a competitive one,
like I compete and whatnot,
when the games workouts come out,
like half the time,
we'll try them at the gym.
We don't do the weights that they do.
we might cut some of the reps back
but we try to get it as close
to what they're doing as we can just
to see because i have a lot of
times they look fun yeah uh one hundred
that also allows dave to keep something up
his sleeve for elite it's because masters
are going first if you pick nine some
of the unknown and unknowable can be one
those three that don't get done by masters
right and then you still have the secrets
for the people
a whole different thing at that point uh
jeremy uh twenty twenty one legends had
ten events a part of my soul died
that year he's still not okay about it
you know i've had several conversations
about twenty twenty one he's not he's
still not okay with it uh train olive
we do games rogue and wadapalooza workout
scaled for us at my gym yeah i
mean after the games every year when
christy ran polaris
we did a whole week of games,
workouts the whole week after the games
were all the games,
workouts scaled for our community.
And that was a fun week.
Cause we all just watched the games and
now we got to like,
try out what it felt like to do
those workouts to some degree.
Right.
Yeah.
My program, I do Brandon programs.
He programmed regionals Linda a couple of
weeks ago.
Like,
he's programmed past or at least versions
of past games events for us in the
app to try out.
Like, hey, I remember doing this, blah,
blah, blah, whatever,
and y'all go ahead and give it a
shot and see what you think.
And there's options to make it right for
the individual, for you,
make it right for Scott,
make it right for me.
I just don't understand why you wouldn't
do that or why you would shy away
from that.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
Well, we are over our time.
This was today's lineup of stuff.
And then Rich Froning came in the building
with his news.
So we didn't get to any of that.
Let's go check that.
Check that podcast out.
But thank you, everybody, for being here.
It's fun seeing all of your YouTube raps,
seeing where we end up on that list.
I'm still blown away that we're on any
of those lists for anybody.
When I started this six years ago,
never in my wildest dreams that I think
that I would sit here at lunch every
day and have the coolest chat in...
in CrossFit and in podcasting to get to
hang out with every day.
You guys are the best.
Love you all.
We will be here Sunday night where we'll
talk about all this stuff from that
happened this week.
And we are doing our top five sports
movies of all time.
And we're going to take your input on
that.
And then the week after we are going
to make a bracket and we're going to
do a live poll and we're going to
determine what is the greatest sports
movie of all time.
Hold on.
If we're doing y'all doing that Sunday,
I might have to pop in for that.
I might stay.
I might have to stay up late and
show up for that one.
Cause I have,
I have a top five sports movies.
So we're going to take your input and
we're going to take all of our input
and we're going to create a bracket in
the following week.
We're going to do live polls and we're
going to determine what is the greatest
sports movie of all time.
Mark Phillips says Lady Bugs is in there.
Okay.
Not on my list.
Ken Walters has got some good ones.
Slapshot, Rudy, Rocky.
Oh, damn.
Warrior is good.
I didn't even think of that one.
Warrior is so good.
Yeah.
So get your list ready.
Carolyn, Jamie,
and I will give you our top five
on Sunday.
We're going to take your input in the
chat.
And then we're going to build the bracket.
We're going to build the bracket.
Remember the Titans.
Nope, that's my fault.
Lady Bugs is a classic.
Damn,
I would not put it in my top
five.
Oh my gosh, Ice Castles.
Jody, that is old school.
Robbie Benson?
Robbie Benson, yeah.
Holy smokes.
How about Bend It Like Beckham?
Hey, bring them.
Bring them.
Stop, Jody.
No rom-coms.
Hey,
that girl was blind and still figure
skated.
Not even that one.
What was the other one where the dude,
the chick,
that he was a hockey player and the
chick was a figure skater and he had
to learn how to figure skate?
Cutting edge, man.
One of the greatest movies of all time.
What is it?
Cutting Edge.
Cutting Edge.
Yes.
Go pick.
DB Sweeney and Miura Kelly.
I mean,
it's the Mighty Ducks and then whatever is
second.
Hoosiers.
I mean, wait, nope.
Something with Kevin Costner.
Do CrossFit documentaries count?
There's no rules to this.
We got blades of glory.
No one knows what it means,
but it's provocative.
The goon.
Oh, my gosh.
If that makes the bracket,
I will be shocked.
If you're going to have the goon,
you got to have Happy Gilmore because it's
two sides of the same coin.
Seema says she just spit out her coffee
at Topic.
No.
uh mystery alaska great russell crowe
movie happy gilmore uh drink has good
taste who brings up the goon oh my
gosh kenneth that was a deep cut oh
major league major leagues great
What's the other one?
Jenny says,
I still say toe pick when someone trips
and falls.
Toe pick.
Toe pick.
Is that how you spell it?
Sure.
Why not?
I don't check grammar here.
Or take it with a sea biscuit.
That's a great movie too.
Megan, this is going to be fun.
The Sandlot.
It's going to be really tough to get
it down.
Like, my top five,
I'm having a hard time getting to five.
So hard.
Dodgeball.
Yes.
Yes.
This is going to be a love of
the game.
Coach Carter.
Coach Carter.
My All-American, Grater, Miracle,
Benchwarmers, Air Bud.
No.
Caddyshack, Blue Chips, Any Given Sunday,
Sandlot.
Be the ball.
Should divide into regions by genre.
That's a good idea.
That's not a terrible idea.
Yeah.
I'm the one putting together the bracket
when we get all the input.
So we'll kind of see where the votes
are,
and then I'll put together the bracket,
and then we'll do the live voting.
So you need,
I think you could possibly do six votes.
You do a baseball, football, basketball.
I was thinking comedy, drama, rom-com.
But it could be any of those, right?
Yeah.
Bad News Bears.
The original, though.
Yeah, not that remake bullshit.
Brian song.
It's not even the chat.
It's mine.
Biggest tearjerker.
So you can do a tearjerker one,
like the, the tearjerker one.
I mean, that's, that's a greater, greater.
Yeah.
There's a lot of tearjerker ones.
Vision quest.
Vision quest is probably the best
soundtrack.
That in rock.
Vision question.
Or way up there.
What did you say?
And now I was going to say that
Vision Quest is definitely up there as far
as being a good movie and having one
of the best soundtracks.
I mean,
that was just an eighties dude all the
way.
Talladega Nights.
It doesn't hold a candle to Days of
Thunder.
Sorry.
We've already determined that this week.
The true story category,
the big green Joanna man.
The air up there, white men can't jump.
You're going to put you on a man
and you also have to put.
Why can't it be Michael Jordan and Bugs
Bunny?
Space Jam.
Space Jam.
You have to have Space Jam in there.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, not.
Yeah.
That's why I said Michael Jordan.
The program, Chariots of Fire.
Damn.
See, you guys are ready already.
We've got Sunday night.
Without limits.
Yeah.
So you guys are all ready for Sunday
night.
It's going to be fire.
I remember thinking the first time I saw
Chariots of Fire,
or the first three times,
because it used to be on regular TV
all the time,
that it was the longest movie I'd ever
seen in my entire life,
because every time I watched it,
they were just training,
and it was playing that song,
and I would just run it.
Cool runnings.
I don't know how we narrow it down.
People are going to be screaming at their
monitors on Sunday.
There'll be a lot of...
There's going to be a lot of frustration
going on.
This Sunday is the nomination show,
basically.
And then the following Sunday is where
we're going to narrow it down to one
single greatest sports movie of all time.
I'll be able to watch that because I'll
be in Arizona.
So we'll probably still be up.
All right, guys.
With that,
I've really got to get back to work.
We will see everybody Sunday night for the
nomination show for Best Sports Movie.
And we'll talk about Mayhem buying NC Fit.
And we're going to talk about everybody
partying in San Jose.
All of those things this Sunday night with
Carolyn and Jamie.
We will see you all then.
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